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Old 19-11-2007, 06:47
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Hi can any one tell me i know why we dont mix proteins when on cohens but can someone tell me why we are allowed to mix them on refeed apart from you have to get used to mixing them for after. But shouldn't we always just eat one protein then.

Sorry if it is a sill question but i dont get it....

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Old 20-11-2007, 21:45
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Good question. I am guessing here AnnieM but I would say maybe to help with digestion. The less complex the food the easier it is to digest.
We can mix within groups eg food from the sea - fish, prawns and calamari can be eaten in one meal.
Maybe they have a similar make up that makes digestion easier for our bodies.

It will interesteing to see what others come back with.

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Old 20-11-2007, 22:15
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Hi can any one tell me i know why we dont mix proteins when on cohens but can someone tell me why we are allowed to mix them on refeed apart from you have to get used to mixing them for after. But shouldn't we always just eat one protein then. Sorry if it is a sill question but i dont get it.... Thanks Annie
Hi Annie

No, nothing is a silly question and therein lies the rub!

Our bodies relate and respond to different food types. As we go through the program we are making sure that our gut is clear of one type of protein before introducing another. Stomachs take about five hours to empty so we wait five hours between 'meals' ie between each serving of protein.

Protein is the ‘building block’ of life but in the program we use the protein to block production of insulin, and we can eat the fruit and crispbread at any time except of course, not before protein in the morning as otherwise we would be triggering insulin.

During refeed we are raising the glycerol levels in the tissues back up to 'normal' levels again (remember how in the first week the usually 'huge’ first week loss is the glycerol being used from tissues and muscles) and we are reintroducing protein simply because that is how most people eat.

Yes, it is obviously better for us if we eat according to what we have learned on the program, but we don't really eat that way - we have bacon and eggs, we have ham and cheese, etc etc, so by introducing mixed proteins under controlled conditions we are helping our bodies back into the real world step by step.

Almost nothing we eat is singular. If we eat everything fresh, yes of course it is, but most foods are mixtures and most meals are a smorgasbord even if we don't think of it that way.

If you want to maintain your weight indefinitely, you have to understand how the body responds. This is why people are usually very puzzled that they become obese. 'I really don't eat much' is a common cry but it is how we eat as much as what, when and the quantity we eat.

Once we understand the logic behind not eating within two hours of sleep, and being asleep during the main healing time of the day, and not having fruit, carbohydrates etc before protein and preferably no carbohydrates before mid morning etc etc can we understand that eg there's not a problem with eating chocolate provided that it is eaten in sequence and is a certain type etc.

I maintained almost the exact same weight for twelve months after refeed and ate chocolate and nuts regularly and had the occasional glass of wine and the gentle rock of half a kilo here or there was very natural and manageable. Since July I have put on 3 or 4 extra kilos because of other issues which led me to the nocturnal eating habits of my previous life. Nothing to do with protein, all to do with emotional avoidance.

Remember that during the program we are to eat only the breast meat of the chicken or turkey. This meat contains high levels of tryptophan and very low levels of fat.

During refeed we can start to eat 'any' part of the chicken. Does this mean that even one chicken has different types of protein? Yes, probably. Would this make life very complicated if we tried to monitor every single piece of food? Yes, it would be ridiculous.

So just follow the program and follow the refeed and when you are out in the wild you can decide to have, say, two single protein meals each day and one mixed protein meal and you will probably find that your weight remains stable. Depending on how obese you were, you may be able to have all mixed protein meals and not have any adverse side affects. You will find the first two or three months out from refeed to be very interesting indeed as you experiment with how you can eat in a way which is appropriate for your unique body.

Good luck, it's all fun and a really interesting learning curve!

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Old 21-11-2007, 04:51
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Thank you so much both of you that has helped alot i will print it out and keep it with me.

I hope Kristine that you are okay and you lose those couple of kilos in no time.

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Old 21-11-2007, 05:09
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Hi Kristine

sorry just wondering how much choc you ate, did you have it an hour within the meal (after eating your meal) how many grams and how many days of the week. Sorry just curious.

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Old 23-11-2007, 18:54
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Hi Kristine,

I read that you said soemthing about not eating the carbs (crackers I suggest) before mind morning. Can you elaborate on that. One morning I have crackers, cheese and tomate. With what I htink you are saying this would be better left for lunch.

Thanks for the advise below.

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