Check YOUR Curry Powder !! (aka CURRY- The bane of my existence)

[fornight]

We have numerous brands of curry powders here in Singapore. I assume that as long as I check the ingredients and make sure there is no flour (for example: Rice Flour, Anti-Caking Agent, Starch), it is fine to use.

[cmc]

Kiwinui,

In ref to your whole x amount of flour not making a difference.
I have to say that at a time I was using a different curry powder and found that my weight loss was hindered and I found myself hungrier than normal on the days I wasn't having curry's, but I guess it wasn't hindered to the extreme's these other people seem to be experiencing that asy is referring to I promptly changed the curry powder and noticed the difference.

But I do have to say that in your weights with your food or with your weighed fruit would you chuck in an extra gram or two? and say it won't make a difference?

I think we all know that it does and you wouldn't so when you look at the idea that those extra flour grams would be on top of the contents of flour in your salada allowance then isn't it an extra?

Just chucking that out there..

Carla.

[mazza]

well that seems to explain my problem with my weight loss.on the weeks i have curries i don't lose as much but on the weeks i don't i lose more.i am totally kicking myself because curry powder was the one thing i didn't check when normally i am so careful with ingredients.there are some weeks i have 3 or 4 curries so it does seem to add up in my case.i wouldn't normally think that the little amount of flour in it would hurt but since i've been on cohen's i have discovered that even one little error in weighing or using the wrong ingredient does have some effect on your progress.talk about a bad blonde moment for the last 18 weeks,blooming heck!i for one will be double checking in the future even if i think i know what's in it.thanks guys,marie!
oh and by the way i am blonde so i feel i can pick on the blondes but i'm sorry if that remark offended anyone out there.

[ConnieK..]

I too noticed when I was on the program that the slightest ( and I do mean slightest) variation for me meant a gain or no loss. even now my reset has to be more plan than maintenance or it doesn't work, my body is that sensitive to any kind of flour at all. I can only manage my weight if I watch my carb intake extremely closely.

Sorry Sean, you know I love you ... but I have to emphatically disagree with you on this one. For myself and many many others I know the addition of even a few grams of cohens foods when stuck could cause a stall in losses.

Interestingly sennakot is NOT allowed here ... only coloxyl with Senna. May be an individual clinic thing, and in some cases we have seen clinics making decisions based on seemingly erroneous information.

Another issue that stems from this "how can it matter" attitude is that if you keep saying 2g doesnt matter, then it's 5g ... then 50g .... then a food that is not allowed, then a deviation, then another and you are off the wagon and fighting to get back on.

Don't kid yourself guys, if you could manage your own quantities without addition, if your body wasn't sensitive to carbs and if exact quantities didn't matter ... you wouldn't need to be here.

Connie

[asy]

I appreciate your thoughts Sean, ad you're VERY welcome to disagree with me anytime you choose, so long as you do it in the respectful manner you have (I only get cranky when people are rude!).

But, as I said, I have absolutely NO idea why a tiny amount of curry, even a couple of grams makes such a phenomenal difference, but it DOES.

It doesn't seem to make a difference whether you have salada with the curry or not.

We have had people who grind up their salada as a thickener to their curry and stopped losing weight, when they changed ONLY the curry powder, and still kept the saladas, to the right curry powder their weight loss re-started.

I'm not trying to explain WHY it happens, coz I don't know. I just know it DOES.

Seriously, it's a MASSIVE problem with the people I speak to. Almost EVERYONE I speak with who's weight loss has 'stopped' who believes themselves to be following the programme 100% has one of the following 'problems'...

They eat the wrong curry
They eat wholemeal salada or
they eat Broccoli.

No idea why, again, but people seem to get some form of brain freeze regarding broccoli. It's (unfortunately) not allowed.

Anyway, I'll stop now, but, just understand that I'm not scare mongering. This is a VERY REAL issue. There are a number of things on the programme that I don't think make much difference, for example, I don't think it makes much difference to your loss if you drink a little more than a litre of lemonade, or 4 coffees instead of 3, or such. Of course I'm not suggesting you do, just that I don't think they have that big an impact, but the curry issue is very, very real.

asy.

[Skinny Bineenie]

Oh My God, this is not good........Here I was think curry was my friend and now we must part way's.

BUGGER, BUGGER, URRRRrrrrrrr!

Okay, I've had my moment....I'm moving on now, really ... I am.

[ConnieK..]

You don't have to give it up skinny ... just make sure you are using the right one!

[Skinny Bineenie]

Thanks Connie, the other girls have sorted me out with what I need to get and where from. Fanks x

[Kohinoor]

Hi all,

In my time on here, I've noticed many references to "OMG, I've been using the wrong curry!!"

And, on re-considering it, I don't recall we ever attempted to QUANTIFY the effect of wrong vs right curry.

After Asy's warning, and the comments that followed, I thought it might be useful to initiate a thread that records YOUR experience of weightloss, both before and after your own "wrong curry" revelation.

So, if it applies to you, please join in here:-
The "CURRY" problem - let's research it...

Koh

[Wicked]

Bugger!! Wished I'd known before. I didn't even think to check the container! Doh!

[Wicked]

Is it the same with their mustard powder? (Keens)

[Faithy]

Hey Wicked.. posted further down in this thread that same question was asked about Keen's mustard powder & it appears to be ok.. ..

Clive of India is an awesome curry powder so give that one a shot.

[April]

Kiwinui - thank you for posting what I was thinking! Seriously, the whole tiny bit of flour thing gets to me too when we are allowed to have up to five highly processed white flour crackers a day. It doesn't make sense to me either.

I just get annoyed when the line "it may mean no loss that week" is applied to something as tiny as that with an ingredient already on the program. Like for the first week I was so hungry I 'deviated' by eating more lettuce, that sure as hell didn't make any difference to my 3 kilo loss.

April

[sundaymorningstaple]

This programme is not just about losing weight. This programme is designed to do several things at once. It's only by following the programme to the letter that this is going to happen.

The weight loss is primarily a vehicle to get one's body back to it's optimum weight and one's body back to optimum health as much as possible WHILE reprogramming their HGH. It's the hormone re-balancing that is the key to keeping the weight off after finishing phase one & two of the programme. If one does not successfully re-balance their hormones, then they are a prime candidate for going off the rails after finishing maintenance or struggle to maintain. Without the rebalancing of your hormones, they will, in all probability, eventually either have to go back onto the programme or constantly be resetting or regaining all your weight. See the numerous examples here on this forum who have had to for that reason. Sure some can get away with it occasionally but if they do the programme trying to 2nd guess Dr. Cohens' 27 years of studies, they are only fooling themselves and are going to regret it. But at the end of the day, it's their life and it's going to be as rough or as easy as they want to make it.

I'm asking ALL of our members to please refrain from encouraging others to think likewise. For some, the amount of money is a lot, to have somebody else fill their heads with rubbish, and possibly causing them to waste their hard earned dollar because they are swayed by someone who isn't prepared to commit 100% to the programme. There is also the time cost as well to have to return to the programme again and again. Please folks, think of them as well. Not everybody can ignore the why'er's and this will just cause, those that can't, problems down the pike.

sms

[FlaMie]

In addition to what sms mentioned above, DO NOTE everyone who tries to 'justify' little deviation is that not everyone gets away from small or even tiny deviation such as 1 - 2g. I know I can't. My body is super sensitive to carbs so even a little addition to the body will spiral things out of control for me. Hence, just do what the good doc says and you are well on track to get treated and recover from your illness.

[Determined28]

My clinic in Brisbane told me that Clive of India curry is no longer safe because of the ingredient Fenugreek is not allowed on the program.

So now I make my own using ground ginger, cumin, turmeric, coriander, chilli and pepper.

Has anyone else's clinic confirmed that Clive of India is no longer a 'safe' curry to use?

[asy]

Hi D...

When the initial post in this thread was written, CofI was fine, well, it probably wasnt, but, the problem wasnt known. Since then, the Brisbane clinic has contacted the manufacturer of CofI, initially to ensure that there was in fact no flour or other starch in the product (there isnt) then to see whether Fenugreek was added...

Clive of India does contain Fenugreek, Im not sure if the other clinics know yet.

Fenugreek is specifically disallowed in the programme, try doing a Wiki-search of Fenugreek, it'll soon be pretty clear why it's not allowed!

The other thing is, Fenugreek is like Inulin, it won't affect EVERYONE, but you won't know whether it's you that's affected... Your weight loss will just slow down...

I guess it's a safe-but-sure thing...

If you want to be REALLY safe, make your own curry, and leave the fenugreek out.

If you want to test the theory, keep using it and see whether it makes any difference in your weight loss.

Not sure I would push the envelope, though.

asy.

[zojoho]

Omgoshh, I didn't know this..lucky I haven't used any of my curry then.

[knickerless]

Oh no I've been using Clive of India at least 5 times per week!!!

[Gremlin]

I used it like 5 times in a row last week! However it really doesn't seem to be affecting my losses. I don't think I'll eliminate it, but I'll cut back to once or twice a week and be weary of it if things slow down.

Thanks for the heads up!