6 weeks into maintenance and bombing badly

[jlou]

Bel are you still taking your multi vitamins and some chromium? The latter may help with cravings?

[Belnatjas]

Surely am JLou .... every morning ... the cravings are subsiding, that is for sure ... but I think it is more becuase my head feels right again ... I feel strong, and able to resist any food that is not written down on my plan!

[Pommiegal]

Oh Bel, I have tears in my eyes reading this thread. I am exactly where you were a few days ago. Jlou posted me a link and suggested I read. I've had a week, almost, of feeding my face with rubbish. I feel fat and sick and disappointed...and I haven't even got to refeed yet!!!
I am planning on getting back on the bus tomorrow, even if I'm limping and dragging an extra few kilos with me. I'm going to make a concerted effort to work on what seems like a chronic disease for so many of us - particularly me - the addicition to sugar/carbs/fat.
I will keep calling in to see how you're going Bel. x
Sue

[Belnatjas]

Hey there Pommiegal,

I am back on Struggle Street. You are 100% right ... what we have is ... a chronic disease for so many of us ... the addicition to sugar/carbs/fat.

I am back on the bus today.
Will keep you posted .... I just don't understand why a small deviation turns into a massive disaster everytime!!!!

If I do not deviate from my day-plan I seem to be OK. It is completely crazy as my initial deviation may not even be junk food ... Friday night I had homemade indian meatballs ... and then I found myself going back for something else, and then something else, and so on and so on ....Next thing I know I am off in a tailspin and eating anything and everything for no good reason .....

So frustrating. Anyway, I have completely prepared my food for the next 2 days, so hopefully by 2 days of original plan I can undo some of the damage.

I guess this really is a journey ... but my journey seems to be stuck on a roundabout ... I am going no-where and making the same stuff ups again and again.

This week I am taking the EXIT off the roundabout, and getting back on the right track!!!!!

Bel

[Panda]

Hi Bel - what does the clinic make of all this? It seems like a terrible struggle.

I think it would be good to identify what are the triggers that set you off - is it sugar? Is it flour? Or maybe wine? I feel your pain - it's awful and I hope it's not long till you settle into a good maintenance plan that will work for you.

[Pommiegal]

Oh Bel, I so hear what you are saying - I am exactly the same! It's so frustrating and annoying.

Maybe we should be diet buddies...? Today is day 1 again for me too as I fell on my face yesterday.

Managed to make apple and raspberry crumble muffins this am and didn't even lick the bowl! Told myself they are poisonous for me! Was OK as I'd just had an apple and a cracker and so my tummy was full.

How is the Beck's book going? I've been meaning to invest in it, but never quite got round to it. Should I?

Good luck with the rest of today!

Sue

[Belnatjas]

Sue,
This sounds great ... I am a carb addict I know and I would love to have your support and be a support to you too.
I am very all or nothing ... so long as I don't have any sugary and floury stuff I am fine ... the minute I start all hell breaks loose!!!
Good luck with today

Bel

[MsEmmesse]

Hi Bel & Sue - I'm EXACTLY the same! Black & white and on plan = good as gold. Allow myself a treat of something carby and then the floodgates are opened with no sign of control. I came across this article today and it resonates hugely with me and thought you guys might find it of interest! I have long felt I am a food addict in exactly the same way as a heroin addict - looking for the next hit to make me feel good and getting less of a response with each mouthful. I laughed my head off at the part about the rats knowing the shock was coming but still eating into oblivion! Hello Mary

http://www.cbc.ca/technology/story/2...n.html?ref=rss

The struggle for me is how to change my thinking. How to rewire my brain that food is not the reward. When I think about the psychology of crappy food, from the time we are knee high to grasshoppers we are told junk food is a treat. No wonder we have a problem with it!

I remember hearing a snippet on 97.3 radio earlier in the year some guy who worked with people to do exactly that - change our associations with food. Anyone in Brissie who can remember this?

Cheers

[Belnatjas]

Oh MsEmmesse,

I totally relate. Before Cohen's I was not the one controlling my relationship with food ... I felt irritable, annoyed and like I would take out anyone who stood in my way of stopping me from eating junk!!!!!
I was addicted, and I have realised that the addiction is still there, and is strong.
I have realised I am better off abstaining completely from trigger foods ... sugar ... chocolate... cakes ... breads etc Because once consumed there is no BRAKES .....

I am now faced with going COLD TURKEY ... and fighting the urges all over again. I have done it before and I know I can do it again, but it's not pretty and its not easy.
But I don't want to end up on the fast track to "Blubber Hell" (to coin a term D28 used to say often pre-Cohen's!!)

I have read the article, thankyou! Where abouts are you in your Cohen's journey?

Bel

[MsEmmesse]

Hey Bel - Cold turkey is looking like my only option too! But like any other addict, I struggle with actually being able to turn my back on it completely! I haven't quite been able to reconcile that life after Cohen's does not include the carbs/sugar/fat free for all! Even if blubber hell (just love it D28!) is the consequence that stares me plainly in the face, I still have difficulty in cutting the cord. Still haven't wrapped my mind completely around the "nothing tastes as good as thin feels" concept!

My latest mission has been to try to find the alternative to the action of mindlessly reaching for the crappy food. So many of the usual suspects in terms of ideas (facials, massage, clothes, etc) are expensive and just don't do it for me. Also, I never learnt the art of delayed gratification so waiting to accumulate the treat escaped me. (If you ever get to see the original video tape of Daniel Goleman's Mashmellow test, I'm the kid who just grabbed and wolfed it down. Hahahaha!) If you have any brilliant ideas - send em on through! I do know my danger time - mid afternoon. So I probably need to slot in the treadmill there and give myself a flogging!

A luta continua - the struggle continues.

[Kohinoor]

Hi Bel, (and MsMS)

Have you stumbled over this yet?
http://newyouforum.com/forum/showthread.php?p=257075#post257075

And hey, I present it only as a "possible realisation", as I have NO WAY of knowing if it is valid - but it struck me that it could hold the key for many. In the link she presents, the usual situation is that SOME can't handle sugars, while SOME can't handle fats !! I gather that it is unusual for someone to be susceptible to both....

Maybe it helps to halve your concerns - hope so

Koh

[mcpsych]

hmmm, a flogging eh- could be something in there you could use
some sort of afternoon delight ( as opposed to turkish delight)

i think for some of us it will be abstinence ( from sugar - keep it out of the gutter please)

[angelbum]

Hi Bel,

Just checking in to see how you're going. I've been catching up on your diary and I feel EXACTLY the same way as you. So I"m joining you and going back to original program again to shed these kgs. I'd been tossing around the idea of doing exercise and just 'healthy' eating but i've come to the thought - why do that when original program WORKS!! My only concern is that my guidelines said if i put on more than 4kgs my original plan may not work - eek! Have you had any dramas yet do you think sticking with original plan or does it seem to still be working?

Best of luck babe - you can do this for sure!
xoxox

[Belnatjas]

Hi Angelbum,
I am doing my Cohen's food shop this weekend, and prepping my quantities of protein again etc.
Ready to recommence and get back to my refeed finishing weight as of Monday.
I am over 4kgs from finishing weight, but I will be using my original program, so fingers crossed it will still work for me, as I can't afford a new program, and I think my husband would KILL me (joke ) if I asked to buy another program .....
I am ready to get back on track, I am sick of being cranky at myself!

Good luck with your journey to get back on track!
Bel

[Pommiegal]

Good on ya Bel. I'm almost thru week 1 again and have been very short tempered . Sometimes it's still a bit of a struggle. If anyone hears of that guy in Brisbane that MsEm suggested, count me in! Maybe we could get a group discount! lol
Sue

[Ladybird]

Giving this thread a bump becuase I want to know where you are at Bel & Sue?????
LB x

[harrysan]

Where/how would/do I find the "back on the bus" thread? I did a search but could not find it.

Thanks

[Kohinoor]

Hi Harry,

Where/how would/do I find the "back on the bus" thread?

It is a "sticky" in the Discussion Forum. Always check the "stickies" for stuff that is important.... We "stick" them to the top of each page so that they don't just roll onto page 2, or 3 like every other thread can.

Anyway, here it is :-

http://newyouforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=7521

Koh

[harrysan]

Thanks Koh

[Dezzy]

Bumping this thread as there seem to be a few of us struggling with carvings, carbs and / or maintenance. Interesting article in post 28... Worth the read!