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Old 11-02-2009, 11:44
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Others have already said it, Vee. Your body sounds ready for refeed, and just look at Louise. She was trying so hard to hang on to lose the last few kilos, and they went when she started refeed. Listen to your body and be kind to yourself. Just check one thing with your clinic: some have said that you must be d-free for 10 days before you start refeed to have that metabolic equilibrium.
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Old 11-02-2009, 12:24
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Hey Vee

You are still torturing yourself honey. Your body is screaming out for food, it is telling you it needs (not wants) more food. If the clinic said to start, remember they were consulting directly with the good Doctor, then START. I know you want to lose a couple of extra kilos, chances are that they will do a Louise and drop off. But remember they are just numbers, a suggested optimum weight range. Maybe your body just will not release those kilos if it is feeling starved, end of story. Did you tell the clinic that you had a naughty weekend??? Maybe just check/double check.


Take care honey, whatever you decide to do

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Old 11-02-2009, 13:29
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I'm sorry it's so hard, Vee....

I will do my best right now...
I was thinking...you know - one thing are numbers on the scale.

The other thing is our body and our MIND.
You lost over 50 kg. That IS A WHOLE person, Vee.

I think clinic knows what they are talking about. And honestly? I am not sure about this whole hormonal equilibrium thing... and even if it really exists...where is it?
This diet didnt prove to me (maybe I am wrong) that women that "get to" hormonal equilibrium actually have less problems keeping the weight stable.
I know (also from other forums) that some kept it very nicely at higher weights than their goals - IF they are careful what they eat.


I mean, seriously, if dr.Cohen with his magic, can't say it more surely with the bloodtests and all the data... it should really be YOU yourself to know best. And I think after you lost SO much, maybe give your body some time, maybe even few months to settle at this weight first, then if you decide to lose more, do it. And it might be even fun - with working out a little, eating really what you like - veggies you like, fish you like... no 5 hours rules... make it a pleasure, losing it slow and without deadlines.

Your body is tired, your mind is tired.. you can see how it is affecting you, vee...Don't go as far as I did in the summer!
I mean, I was literally losing my mind - yes, I was too thin, but you lost 3 times more than I did and I was on the diet 3 months and you?

I was thinking last night...what is more important to me, really? Do I wanna be super looking thin chick?
No. I wanna be a fun girl, proud of myself and fun to be around.
And first of all - I wanna be healthy.
So, I decided I will start the refeed when I get home, like the consultant told me to.

I am having a good consultant this time and I trust her.

And of course - even refeed is still A DIET - I mean, see the amounts of food? Its still very diet food and we might as well lose some during the refeed.

See, if we get to the goal - and then get these huge cravings - you can give in one time and gain 4 kg in a week... so why not lose those last 4 slowly and when you are rested and your mind is strong?

I dont wanna encourage you to give up, I am just writing my own thinking I did for myself. Because I'm kind of done with this diet, too. And just thinking there's another 20 days of measuring and timing for me... is kind of enough to really say - it is time.


((((((((((((((((((((((((( VEE )))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) big hug!
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Old 11-02-2009, 13:44
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Thanks soooooooooo much for all your input!!

It is a huge help and I've taken it all on board.

While I understand what you are all saying, what Maya says seems to make the most sense to me, especially the bit where she says
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Your body is tired, your mind is tired.. you can see how it is affecting you, vee...Don't go as far as I did in the summer!
I was not seeing it until she pointed it out!

What also makes soooo much sense to me is the bit where she says
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See, if we get to the goal - and then get these huge cravings - you can give in one time and gain 4 kg in a week... so why not lose those last 4 slowly and when you are rested and your mind is strong?


So, based on those little nuggets of gold, I've made a decision. I will do my shopping etc this weekend and start refeed next week.

Mette and SB, the clinic knows about my blowout on Sunday and said to start the refeed anyway.

I so appreciate all of your input! It is so great to have you guys help see things from a different perspective!
Thanks again!

Hugz
Vee
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Old 11-02-2009, 14:30
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Hello Gorge!
HUGE conrats for reaching re-feed! That's truly awesome!
Hope it all goes super smoothly!
Looking forward to the goal pics!!!
Toodles from me xo
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Old 11-02-2009, 15:53
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Good decision Vee and yep sometimes it is just 'thinking' about things different that makes all the sense in the world!

I think the whole 'dont push it' and get the 4 kilos off when the mind and body is stronger rings so true

Well bloody done Vee you have climbed the mountain and won!
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Old 11-02-2009, 17:00
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Vee,
I'm sorry to see you have still been struggling so much. I'm glad you are deciding to start refeed as it may be the answer to all your problems and struggles. Hope it all goes well.
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Old 11-02-2009, 21:05
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good to hear you've made a decision vee. maya's advice is always superb and spot on given that she's been there before.

all the best for refeed petal cc
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Old 11-02-2009, 21:09
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Congratulations Vee, on travelling the journey and it must be wonderful to know that you are finally nearly there! I am looking forward to seeing "Vee's refeed diary"
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Old 11-02-2009, 21:18
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Excellent news Vee on starting refeed on the weekend - I wish you every success with those last kilos and am sure your body will respond well. Can't wait to read your refeed diary!! Woo Hoo!

Cheers - Kay.
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Old 12-02-2009, 07:58
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I've been reading and re-reading my refeed, to get my head around it and the changes that it will incorporate. I'm actually quite excited about getting to this stage of the journey and getting to add more food as well as new foods.

Thanks for the visit Drexyl, Hexi, Michele, CC, PS, and Kay! As always, great that you dropped by!

Have a fab day, everyone!

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Old 12-02-2009, 08:02
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Hi Vee

So glad you are getting excited about refeed. You seem to be really ready for it. What an amazing journey you have had ... and continue to have.

I really admire your willingness to get to the root of the problem and let go your old belief systems. Well done - very courageous. Look forward to sharing your refeed journey.

Blessings
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Old 12-02-2009, 08:36
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Good decision Vee....and I'm very sure its the right one! Can't wait to read your re-feed diary!

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Old 12-02-2009, 08:45
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Oh YAY.... thank God it's over. Seems that one of the hardest times of all is that time just efore refeed.Seems to really do people's heads in !
You're THERE .....congratulations.
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Old 12-02-2009, 09:52
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Hi Vee, I think you have made a great decision to start refeed next week. You should be so proud of your acheivements and you have hung in there for so long. It is so worth all the mental jargon we have to decifer
Guess I will be catching up with you in the refeed section soon.....YAYYY

Have a great day

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Old 12-02-2009, 10:17
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Hey Vee

Now that the decision has been made to start refeed are you walking a little easier with all that weight off your mind?? I bet you do feel better. I am so happy that you have decided to take the next step, you will be great and I will be very interested to see what that last few kilos decides to do. Drop off is my guess.

Take care dear one

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Old 12-02-2009, 12:38
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Congratulations VEE!!!!!!!!

What a wonderful achievement. In my short time here I have seen first hand the encouragement you give others and the heartfelt congratulations of all those that post here are thoroughly deserved. Can't wait for the Veefeed diary. Go Girl GO!!!
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Old 12-02-2009, 17:04
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Hi Vee

Yay for making the refeed decision! I wish you all the best on your new journey and I'm so proud of you!

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Old 13-02-2009, 08:36
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Hey Vee - I'm truly relieved that you will be starting refeed. Clearly your body and mind needs it, and as others say - it may well be the catalyst to your letting go those extra kilos that you want to lose.

You've come such a long way that perhaps it's easy to forget that when you started all this that you would have been ecstatic to be the weight that you are now and looking as good as you do.

What you have achieved is wonderful and to be celebrated in its own right - and right now! Whatever fine-tuning you wish to do with the weight you want to settle at will be borne out through the refeed and maintenance process.

Allow your body to have the extra nutrients it needs, and your mind the rest of always being at battle. Savour the new flavours - it's not a crime to enjoy the healthy food that we now will choose to eat. Food isn't our enemy - it has no morality. It is just food - some of it more healthy than others - but we have the power here - we make the choices - not the other way around, as those of us with emotional eating issues have been led to believe.

I'm positive that once your body is replenished and getting all the nutrients it needs, the risk of blowouts will diminish and cravings remain abated. You, like all of us - need to work out what foods you have trouble with - whether physically or emotionally, and then make sound choices around them and allow time and experience to show you what these truths are.

Don't be afraid to let the program part go - although I do understand after your having been on it for so long, and danced a merry dance with it, that it is what is known to you and therefore somewhat safe and comforting. You can now go into refeed Vee -knowing that all the rest of us will be following you there and the support for you doesn't end with the end of the program. We'll all be there with you through refeed and maintenance and life thereafter - if you continue to wish to hang about.

I personally hope that you do!

I'm looking very much forward to hearing your latest news,

Warmest regards always, Nick
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Old 13-02-2009, 09:11
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Morning all!

Weight is the same today, still 66.0kgs. I've decided I'll start refeed on Sat, Valentines Day!. Not only have I got a fabulous partner to share the day with, but it's seemed fitting to celebrate my self-love with a momentous occasion, and starting refeed seems to be such an occasion! (Thanks Maya!)

Not much else to report, still working on the mind stuff, and generally feeling more relaxed about the whole process and more in tune as well. That's thanks to all your great comments and insights, which I have to say, are invaluable!

Today at work we are having a casual dress day for a gold coin donation which will be donated to the Fire victims in Victoria. It feels good to be able to help in some kind of way. I've already gotten rid of all my fat clothes so can't donate any of those. I have to say, I hated all my fat clothes and I was only too happy to get rid of them when I no longer needed them!

Thanks so much to everyone for stopping by my diary, Shanara, HB, GG, Jenny, SB, Zambuck, Liddie and NicNac. You guys are just awesome!!

Vee
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