What's with rice cakes?

[glassangel]

I don't understand why you can have one thin rice cake in place of two crispbreads?

because I could I weighed a thin rice cake and it's like about 5g - 2 salada crispbreads are close to 15g...

does anyone know why it's so light on with the allowance of rice cakes?

G.

[Kristine..]

Hi

No, I don't know but I can guess!

Everything about this program is designed to provide the brain with essential 'fresh' energy in the form of carbohydrates from the crispbread and sugars from the fruits, while the rest of the body gets along on the energy previously stored in the fat and now being coverted by the liver into immediate fuel.

The amount of carbohydrate in the rice cake would be equivalent to the amount in the wheat crispbread. But it's not just about the 'carbohydrate', it's about all the other stuff in food which we are not aware of, and our reactions to the food.

If two wheat crispbread contain insufficient carbohydrate to trigger an insulin response, and one rice crispbread or one rye vita is ditto flying below the radar, then that's just the way it is.

The rice cakes make a nice change, a bit of 'mix n match' never goes astray. I used to really enjoy the rice cakes when grilled as a 'pizza', although I must admist the cake can get a bit soggy. They were not something we previously had in the house, but everyone pitched in and tried something new and the cakes became quite popular (despite tasting somewhat like eating dry cardboard!).

Cheers

Kristine

[Ecogirl]

Hi G
Along with what Kristine said. It's my understanding that rice creates an insulin reposnse therefore you can only have it in small doses - this is why you may feel hungry after eating a rice based meal. Wheat products are lower GI and don't create the same insulin response which is probably why you can eat a little bit more than the rice.

FWIW - I stick to vita wheats because they are the least processed of them all and are whole grains.

Amanda

[glassangel]

Thanks...I thought it must have had something to do with the rice...I'm sticking to my saladas at the moment - but now that you mentioned vita weats...that could be good for a change too!

I want to process what you ahve written Kristine...I really want to understand the science behind it all -- like does it really (and I know yes it does but) really make a difference to have 105g to 100g etc and why?? What does the blood test show etc etc...

[Kristine..]

Hi GA

I have no idea about what the blood tests indicate - I was not told anything at all about the results, and everything worked fine.

Have a look at your pathology sheet - that is what the blood tests are for. TTBOMK, they are for function, particularly of the kidneys, but probably do show up other things as well.

OK, let's look at how our clever little bodies work. We see food, eat it, and don't think about it again until we want to eat again.

In the meantime, the body is doing all sorts of absolutely amazing things, some of which we don't like very much.

Have a look at this:

During the week (this is from my 'Investment in Reduction' thread over at Somersoft http://www.somersoft.com/forums/show...ment+reduction I discovered these information pages. I can't insert the pictures, but the fat cells are quite fascinating to look at, this gives a better understanding of the whole process

http://www.rkm.com.au/CELL/obesity-adipocytes.html

This website, from the Tooele County Health Department, says

http://www.tooelehealth.org/Communit...Fat_Cells.html

(run your mouse over the pictures for a text explanation) "When a person loses weight, the fat is burned from the center of the fat cell as the diagram on the left shows. The cell itself, stays forever, unless it is surgically removed by process called liposuction."

Eeee-eeew! So fat cells are with us for life! What a rotten deal! This explains why it is so easy for people to put fat deposits straight back on after ceasing a restrictive diet. It also explains why fat to cushion essential organs is so necessary. After all, this is an important function of fat deposits, one which we have no control over - 'Oh, I'd like to lose fat from my abdomen but not from my heart cushion' - doesn't work, the body has to have these layers, plus we'd be very cold and unable to withstand thermic shock without fat.


If you have a bit of time, the 'Investment' thread may be interesting to you - just skim through it, it goes on for ages, and feel free to ignore the cynics.

The Cohen's program is very effective and very specific. This article, too, may be of interest: http://www.springboard4health.com/pr...dr_mike_01.htm

So if you are interested, there is quite a bit to learn. I am convinced that my stable weight for twelve months has been because I learned a bit about the program, and that knowledge has protected me from returning to previous eating patterns and putting the weight back on.

Let me know if you enjoy the pictures of the fat cells!

Cheers

Kristine

[glassangel]

Thanks heaps - haven't looked yet but will do (very intrigued about these fat cells )

Yeah I can see why that has helped you stay healthy - I want to learn heaps too - also to teach my 2 sons

[harmony]

Originally Posted by Kristine..

Hi

No, I don't know but I can guess!

Everything about this program is designed to provide the brain with essential 'fresh' energy in the form of carbohydrates from the crispbread and sugars from the fruits, while the rest of the body gets along on the energy previously stored in the fat and now being coverted by the liver into immediate fuel.

The amount of carbohydrate in the rice cake would be equivalent to the amount in the wheat crispbread. But it's not just about the 'carbohydrate', it's about all the other stuff in food which we are not aware of, and our reactions to the food.

If two wheat crispbread contain insufficient carbohydrate to trigger an insulin response, and one rice crispbread or one rye vita is ditto flying below the radar, then that's just the way it is.

The rice cakes make a nice change, a bit of 'mix n match' never goes astray. I used to really enjoy the rice cakes when grilled as a 'pizza', although I must admist the cake can get a bit soggy. They were not something we previously had in the house, but everyone pitched in and tried something new and the cakes became quite popular (despite tasting somewhat like eating dry cardboard!).

Cheers

Kristine

Hey Kristine I think really have to study up about how the body burnt fuel fats and carbohydrates it's maybe all in the balance, the bit about like eating dry cardboard that's funny

[Feelsmeup]

The low calorie count of rice cakes may be a bonus, but they aren't the best weight-loss food. Rice cakes have a very high glycemic index, meaning they digest quickly and spike blood sugar and insulin levels, according to Dr. Mike Roussell. Rice cakes aren't particularly filling either. Meaning you're unlikely to feel satisfied just eating one or two. Some flavored rice cakes also have added sugars, salt, calories and artificial ingredients.