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Old 09-12-2009, 22:32
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I'm waiting to start Cohens, but have been spending many a happy hour browsing here when I should be working.

I saw a mention of broccoli being forbidden, and red capsicum (pepper). Anyone know why? There aren't that many veg I like at the best of times, and there are are 2 fewer I can eat now!
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Old 10-12-2009, 00:14
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Mmmm I think a lot of us expressed shock at what we weren't allowed, especially as you assume of course that all vegetables must be healthy! Of course they are but some have more starches and sugars than others. I was a broccoli addict and have now switched allegiances to cabbage. You will have to give them up in the short term and if you're lucky reintroduce them down the track once you're finished.

What other veges on the list do you like? If you like broccoli, I would assume you also like cauliflower? That is lovely in soups and stirfries, plus I do a lovely mexican mince beef with cauliflower - it really is delicious. Maybe start a thread with the vegetables you can stomach and I am sure loads of people will chime in with recipe suggestions.
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Old 10-12-2009, 14:53
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Thanks, I'll do that.

It's interesting though, as you realise that you ate things you "thought" were healthy, that may actually have been contributing to the problem.
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Old 11-12-2009, 01:21
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Was browsing spices tonight (looking for caking agent etc) this evening while cooking dinner and a few more questions occurred:

(1) Is pork out? Haven't seen recipes involving pork?
(2) Tinned tomatoes? Are they OK if there are no added ingreients?
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Old 11-12-2009, 09:19
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you will find on your foods list exactly what you can eat- if it is not expressly permitted, it is forbidden
that being the first hurdle, it is easier to just accept it and get on rather than question. the results truely are worth it
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Old 11-12-2009, 12:45
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I'm sure you're right, just that blind acceptance without understanding WHY goes against the grain (except, of course, we can't have grains......)
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Old 12-12-2009, 01:42
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Unfortunately, mcpsych is absolutely right.

This programme demands 100% blind acceptance. The first thing you have to realize is that the good Dr. Cohen has devised a lifestyle programme where the weightloss portion is not the goal but the means. That's right. The goal is not losing weight.

The goal is getting your body back to a healthy state and reprogramming your HGH so that you can change your eating habits, which were unhealthy, to a healthy one. In the process of the reprogramming, He takes your body back as quickly and healthily as he can. But to do so requires careful study of the foods and their chemical makeups.

Tomatoes contain certain chemicals & sugars that, while okay, require that you use only medium tomatoes as they will contain no more that what his programme can handle. If you use small tomatoes (like cherry or those small elongated ones, they contain the same quantities of the detrimental chemicals as a medium normal tomato so if you eat two of those you are getting 2x the chemical dosage than what is allowable.

Same goes for the chemical contents of Yellow or Red Capsicum, the chemical dosage is heavier than the green ones.

Certain fish contain more oils that are harder to digest than others.

While vegetables are good for you, except for those which grown beneath the soil (starches), some contain chemical/minerals that slow down or cause hunger, so therefore Dr. Cohen does not allow them as they interfere with his fine balance that lets you lose weight at maximum rate WITHOUT feeling hunger. It is for this reason the programme is so strict.

You have heard it said many times when researching this programme, that "Your food is your medicine" correct? Now, when you go to your local doctor and he prescribes a course of medication, you follow it to the "T" correct? And, you don't question his judgment either. So what is the difference?

Please remember, Dr. Cohen is not a PhD doctor but a REAL MD type (Cardiologist) who has spent 27 years studing obesity and fertility and how to reduce overweight women to enable them to conceive. You also have to follow this prescription to a "T". Think about it. everything you consume on the course of this programme is weighed DOWN TO THE GRAM! It's that important.

And, from one who knows, it's well worth it. Today I jumped on the scales almost 18 months since finishing the programme and I weigh all of 1.5 kg above my finish weight and 1.5 kg below the top of my range.

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Old 12-12-2009, 11:15
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That's a very good explanation and should be a sticky.

I'm not saying I'm planning to deviate just that it'd be nice to understand the rationale behind it, which I do now, thanks.

(And actually I'm starting to question doctors generally a bit more days as had a few experiences recently where they've prescribed the wrong thing).

This all sounds a bit like a religion in many ways.
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Old 12-12-2009, 11:30
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Hi FYM,

You thought so too, eh? I'm not surprised.... It's well written, and makes a LOT of sense - so I've included it here :-

http://newyouforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9170


Hi SMS,

Future YM certainly appreciated it - and I'm sure I've seen similar posts from you in the past, but HOW to find them is often a problem. So I've given it a place that (hopefully) will become more easily "findable".

Great post, mate

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Time for another bump !!
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